Jesus calls us to Himself When The Show begins Were infants so He humors us Its Rocky and His Friends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65t-OzhlmvE. Within Acts 22 he mentions how he zealously persecuted the followers of the Way, something that up until that point, had not been done by anyone within Judaism to that extent. One of them responded to me QUOTE: In short you believe Paul is the Anti Christ.. Not a new theory Mostly just misunderstanding Pauls writings..He never preached to abolish The Torah thats a misunderstanding https://unashamedofjesus.org/2016/05/31/greatest-commandment/#comment-5642, The other one responded to me QUOTE: When you referred to Jesus words about the greatest commandment, you neglected to mention the context. When Paul was arrested, he told the people and the authorities, "I am a Jew, born in Tarsus in Cilicia, but brought up in this city, educated at the feet of Gamaliel according to the strict manner of the law of our fathers, being zealous for God as all of you are this day" (Acts 22:3). Evidence for this more accommodating opinion is found in the book of Acts. When P. Long said above that he was an ultra conservative reacting to what he perceived as a dangerous liberal view, it made me think of this situation more in terms of the present times. The Clementine Literature suggested that he maintained secrecy about the conversion and continued to be a member of the Sanhedrin for the purpose of covertly assisting his fellow Christians. WE are not even in this game! Third, as John Polhill observes, several rulings from Gamaliel appear in the Mishnah, the Jewish commentary on the Law. So if I wanted to be like Paul I could stretch the truth and claim that Marco Barrientos was my worship teacher- but really that would be name-dropping in order to impress people!, Quote from The Atlantic Monthly Magazine, January 1999 Article titled What is the Koran? by Toby Lester. Love. https://wonderfulgraceofjesus.wordpress.com/2017/03/08/the-commandments-of-jesus/#comment-120. it seems like Gamaliels statement would be a good point to make in sharing the gospel message with people of the Jewish faith. In other words, had God been preparing Saul for this breakthrough prior to Acts chapter 9? This is certainly not the opinion of his young disciple Saul when we meet him in Acts 9 and according to Pauls own self-description. Supposition isnt the problem. Paul describes his own life in Philippians 3:5-6, where he lists seven things ascribed to him or achieved by him: He states that he was "circumcised on the eighth day.". Evidence for this more accommodating opinion is found in the book of Acts, although some (like Chilton) are not completely convinced Acts portrays Gamaliel accurately. When did Paul study under Gamaliel? While his academic eloquence and Oxbridge accent package his presuupositional as carrying high credibility, it too frequently in substance simply does not. And no one, not even Paul, ever said that all Scripture was equal. Yet hes from the school of Shammi? [1 & 2 Corinthians.}. This is the reason why Yeshua said that Pharisee should be the the ones teaching. This gets Paul in trouble and that section of Acts is basically a dissertation by Paul stating he never taught against the law but adheres to it. This contradicts the clear specific teaching of Jesus about the first and greatest commandment and the second. For years now America has been stuck in a seemingly endless, unwinnable guerilla war in an Asian nation that borders China. Eryk, have you ever heard of dual citizenship? They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men. [Isaiah 29:13]. If it wasnt for his prior teaching and influence, then he would not of had the zeal and passion. Not to say that Paul completely left his Jewish heritage (thats a separate blog) and the almost violent passion with which he held onto them (see Galatians 5:12). Nave's Topical Index. Yes you clearly are removing them from Jewish culture and using Constantine-Christianity and replacement theology to float most of your website. "From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land." Gamaliel II, also called Gamaliel Of Jabneh, (flourished 2nd century ad), nasi (president) of the Sanhedrin, at that time the supreme Jewish legislative body, in Jabneh, whose greatest achievement was the unification of the important Jewish laws and rituals in a time of external oppression by Rome and internecine . Anyway, I should save a throne for him too.. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. He is also quick to associate with gentiles, so he does not have a deep-seated hate for Romans in general as well. I would agree that Saul takes a different approach than Gamaliel to the upstart church at the beginning of Acts, but I will insist that he returns to the teachings of his youth after his conversion (no doubt in no small part due to the Holy Spirit). There is no god but God Shahada part 1 in Islam. .b) What about the so-called Great Commission? The Apostle Paul encountered Jesus on his way to Damascus in one of the most radical of ways, which led to his conversion and stepping into his call to follow Christ and preach the Gospel. I differ from many of my former teachers, though I still appreciate their perspective. As a world renowned public speaker, Rabbi Singer addresses more than 100 audiences a year. One syllable, beginning with a consonant. This is not the sort of education most people would even want, so it is not really a college degree. Here however it plainly is not. Benjamin was a euphemism for Herodian Jew btw so Pharisee or not Paul was loyal to Herod, his friend was foster brother of Herod the tetrarch or Herod something, but Herod. For Chilton, it was the speech of Stephen that forced Paul to openly break from his teacher by participating in the stoning of Stephen (Rabbi Jesus, 43). Mantra: ..and Muhammad is his prophet., .3) Paul the Pharisee, the self-appointed Apostle to the Gentiles, whose 13 letters comprise one third of what, today, we call the New Testament. (The first, original New Testament was composed by the second century heretic Marcion, and he coined the term New Testament. His new book contained nothing except 10 of Pauls letters and an abbreviated Gospel of Luke. We therefore need to be careful what we say to the young and fragile new born souls. The only place in the New Testament that mentions anything like Seven Mountains is Revelation 17, seven hills on which the woman sits. (The Great Prostitute, that is.) The irony is what youre doing is exactly what Paul said NOT to do. This powerful conversion led Paul to give his life to the mission of building up the church and furthering the kingdom of God. I say that Paul became more like a Hillelite and was largely impacted by Gamaliels theology because there are a few instances noted in the Bible where Pauls beliefs line up very closely with Gamaliels. But a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law who was honored by all the people, stood up in the Sanhedrin and ordered that the men be put outside for a short time. We do not know if either Gamaliel or Paul heard Jesus preach or were part of any of the meetings which led to his death. Long has taught full time at Grace Christian University since 1998, specializing in Bible and Biblical languages. Who was Paul taught under? I need to refine that. Needless to say, many still revere Philomena and Christopher as saints. Not to mention I highly doubt you have a Phd in any area of academia or even known any grasp of Hebrew or Greek. ), If you cant prove me wrong, you dont have to say Im right, you dont have to agree, but dont say that Im wrong. If you are sure Im wrong but you dont have time to prove it, that means you are either lazy, willfully ignorant, or are breaking the 9th of the Ten Commandments, You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.. God has not changed, and neither has the text of The Bible. For example, Gi. And I need to save a throne for my mom, or shell be mad. (Also to other eyewitness testimony, recorded by Mark and Luke.) I am truly a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as you all are this day. Paul is inferior, Jesus is superior. We can know Gods will. Philo of Alexandria can be thought of as more moderate to liberal on the Law, his brother completely rejected his Jewish heritage (providing the most extreme position possible). Per Euseibus the first 13 bishops the Jerusalem church were Pharisee. No, I DONT want Paul to act like a Pope controlling all aspects of the church from a distance yet reading Pauls 2 letters to the church, it is clear to me this is exactly what he was doing. What was his last name? Without any clear time reference, continuing on the theme of the Apostles, Matthew does record These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions [Matthew 10:5] Matthew never said that the Apostles were sent out immediately after being appointed. That is a good question, I am not sure if anyone has ever asked me that before! I do not think, however, that Paul was a Christian Pharisee. But he also gave the Holy Spirit something to work with! Paul, (Timothy1:1) Jesus said, "Ye must be born again" to? (Definition from the American Heritage Dictionary.) But the testimonies of the era indicate he would have become a ward and trainee of Gamaliel in the age range of 10-14. we only see him make use of those things POST conversion, this is true enough, but we do not really have a very large database of material to assess Pauls Hellenistic worldview prior to his conversion. Dang, I wrote that and didnt respond to your last point. Wrong. Happy Pentecost 2017 All praise be to Jesus. How long will you waver between two opinions? As for your denial of a range of opinions in the first century, I suggest a something on the Dead Sea Scrolls, representing a more conservative view of practice than the Pharisees or Sadducees. As for burying Stephen, even if Gamaliel was not a Christian he would have been motivated to care for the dead, as demonstrated in Tobit. Clearly youve never taken hebrew or greek in your life. To think that all Jewish people were completely unified is to share the same fantasy Christians have about the early church. The game the dogs play is the same today, Except now they do it on blogs. The overwhelming internal evidence of The New Restament and mishnaic sources on the Schools of Shammai and of Hillel support the liklihood of Paul being from the School of Hillel. Darris McNeely - Dec 7, 2022 | In this class we will discuss Acts 5:26-41 thru Acts 6:1-7 and notice the following events: the apostles being persecuted by the Sanhedrin for teaching in Christ's name; how a Pharisee named Gamaliel spoke up on behalf of the apostles; and the choosing of seven men to help the disciples distribute food. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. Dmando0110. This isnt the fullest description of him, but its full enough. Without such a solid basis in the Torah and the Jewish Law that he got from studying under Gamaliel, I doubt Pauls conversion and ministry thereafter would have been as impacting or provocative. xl. Judas obviously didnt stand by Jesus in his trial, as the whole world knows. To be extremely polite, I could say that Paul says some things which are difficult to understand. To be more direct, I could say Paul talks like an arrogant megalomaniac with a messiah complex, proclaiming; I am not under the law but yet making up his own laws as he goes along, that everyone else has to obey. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. Gamaliel (Acts 22:3) Who wrote 1 and 2 Timothy? All Jews were Hellenized to some extent, perhaps Paul made more use of Hellenisitic categories after the Damascus Road, but as a citizen of Tarsus it is impossible for him to be completely and solely Jewish in his thinking. In 2019 he published a commentary. 4:2 Gamaliel forbade husbands from divorcing their wives without their knowledge. This does not seem so radically opposed to Rome. Paul was a Pharisee. But it wasnt worth mentioning to anyone in the first century, except the alleged mention of Jesus brother of James who is called Christ, since Chrestos means good it probably is saying James who is called Righteous One and not mentioning Christ or indicating Messiah by saying Christ. Why elevate the words of Marypaulhammad to the highest place, and use them as the lens to view and judge everything else? About The Author Tovia Singer - Rabbi Tovia Singer is well known as the Founder and Director of Outreach Judaism, an international organization dedicated to countering the efforts of fundamentalist Christian groups and cults who specifically target Jews for conversion. Just as Muslims believe that Muhammad never intentionally disobeyed God, Roman Catholics believe Mary was sinless and Evangelical Christians think its heresy to state flatly Paul was WRONG., The Apostle Matthew recorded that at Jesus baptism, A voice from heaven said, This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. [Matthew 3:17], In Gospel of Mark (Mark recorded the teaching of the Apostle Peter), we read: a voice came from the cloud: This is my Son, whom I love. Do you have a reference handy mentioning Gamaliel in the Clementine lit? We should follow the Jesus of the Gospel writers. Or is it possible that Paul privately harbored more overall agreement with Gamaliel/Hillel than with Shammaite Pharisees, and that Paul felt himself to be a lone dissenter in rare cases (Christians) against his former masters legal hermeneutics of mercy? St. Paul is simply an elect vessel, as an Apostle! In fact, it almost sounds as if he is name-dropping in order to impress people! But we dont need to put words in the mouth of Jesus, we can let Jesus speak for himself, and we can listen to Him and obey Him. And one throne for that other guy named Peter. So it is possible they left out the respected Pharisee Gamaliel so that he would not oppose crucifixion. While this is a generalization, many of the rabbinic debates of the first century come down to the opinion of Hillel versus Shammai. Here are 5 to get the discussion started: .1) Pauls boastful conflicting false testimonies, exaggerating and making things up about his conversion experience in Acts 22 & 26, compared to what actually happened (recorded by Luke in Acts 9). To which Paul replied, youre fired. Paul then took his team of painters, and started painting the garage and the house. Blessings following the Jesus of the Gospels. These mostly have something to do with marriage and divorce. I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some (1 Corinthians 9:22 ESV).. Second, Gamaliel taught between A.D. 22-55, so we can get an approximate early date for Pauls education. Im glad no one disagrees with me. What else do we know about him? With respect to Hellenism, Hillel was more open to Hellenism than Shammai and was therefore more open to cooperation with the Romans. 1. Yes the Holy Spirit guided him in his writings, but part of being human is how we are shaped from our teachers and mentors. The people who Paul persecuted were diaspora Jews who accepted Jesus as Messiah and claimed that he was raised from the dead. Galatians: Freedom through Gods Grace (Wipf & Stock, 2019). I am not at all sure you have read my article accurately, nor really spent much time on this site reading the things I post here. It is the drastic nature of the difference in his life after he surrenders to Jesus that testifies to the Power and Truth of who Christ is, as well as to the wonder of the great mystery that is later revealed to Paul! I dont think hes involved in church much, but I could talk with that guy. Jesus reminds us from The Law at the beginning, the Creator made them male and female. [Matthew 19:4, Genesis 1:27], As to the question of whether the Bible is ALL truly Gods WORDS. Belivers in Yeshua adhered to Lev, 23 and worshipped on the true shabbat. The command given by our Lord and Savior Is not a Pharisee speaking alone It came rather through your apostles Matthew Peter and John, If a Pharisee boasts proudly Those men added nothing to my message He doesnt speak for Jesus His words are nothing more than garbage, Bibliography All quotes in quotation marks are from the writings of the Apostles Matthew John and Peter in the Bible, mostly the Red Letter words of Jesus. The commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not covet, and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this ONE RULE: Love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no harm to its neighbor. According to Jesus, which Commandment is the Most Important? Which is why he had to go to Sinai (which is in current day Saudi Arabia). This applies to the Pharisee sect. The homeowners friend, the painting contractor, apologized, and explained: I hired a new foreman named Paul, but that was a huge mistake. Indirectly, Gamaliel had a profound effect on the early church. I pray that you will be blessed with the knowledge of Jesus Christ and Gods love through the cross for you. It isnt a question of mens opinions about what Paul really meant or what Paul must have known or what Paul was actually referring to here or what Paul was clearly implying or what we must conclude that Paul was assuming, etc. I can back up my view with plenty of Scripture here is just one, written by the Apostle Peter- 2 Peter 3:2. Paul claims in Philippians 3 to be a Hebrew of the Hebrews, some people take that as a saying we spoke Hebrew at home, not Greek or Aramaic. God told them to go one way, and they disobeyed God and did the opposite- but God still worked through them eventually, after they repented. The Lord Our God is ONE God worship HIM.. Acts of the Apostles, 5 speaks of Gamaliel as a man held in great esteem by all Jews and as the Jewish law teacher of Paul the Apostle in Acts 22:3. . Jesus Leadership Training, The Book of Enoch for Beginners: A Guide to Expand Your Understanding of the Biblical World. Hes an Liberal heretic !!! (Acts 8:1-2, 9:1-2) It is easy to gather from his writings that Paul was a very passionate person all around. So Law, Prophets, scripture is what it is divided into. The Apostle Paul met him during his second missionary journey and he became Paul's companion and missionary partner along with Silas. Er was the first person God killed for being wicked ( Gen 38:7 ). It is comparing the words of Jesus with the words of Paul (and other men) regarding which one is the Most Important Commandment and which one is the Second commandment, which together fulfill the Law and the Prophets. God wants to welcome anyone into His family who has the desire to seek, follow, obey, trust, and love God. I think they are both wrong, because of Ephesians 2:15 and Matthew 5:17-20, among other Scripture passages Can you help to bring harmony in the Bride of Christ? It sounds so right, so intelligent, so professional, so godly.. but it is fundamentally flawed. Religious Jews, who were living under the Law, were asking Jesus (at that time a teacher of the Law) concerning The Law. Good to see the parrot-heads well represented here. Paul might indeed have been a follower of the School of Shammai, but his mentioning Gamaliels name might have been intended to his (Pauls) having studies in Jerusalem when Gamaliel was head of the Sanhedrin. This message was not the Gospel. Return to your own blog and post this stuff. I will say, The Jewish account maintains that he remained a Pharisee until his death makes perfect sense since we know that there were other Pharisees who were Christians in Acts 15, and Paul still claims to be a Pharisee when he testifies before the Sanhedrin in Acts 23:6. These towns created laws that anyone in the town must worship these gods in order to buy, sell, trade or commute in the city. Similarly,When did Paul study under Gamaliel? You dont know him, and Ive just barely met him. I am enjoying the discussion and information/opinions/wisdom here. This is more accurate, important, and authoritative than personal letters written by Paul the Pharisee, who never knew Jesus personally, had no part in His ministry, and had no eyewitness testimony. Its not like there is a reason to believe a man who said, If my FALSEHOODS abound to Gods glory why am I being judged a sinner.?. I am surprised that no one has brought the tradition that Gamaliel was sympathetic to Christianity, if not himself baptized. Meaning people who believed in the Moshiach as Yeshua. Perhaps a foundation stone? Matthew built on Marks work, using it as a backbone, and filling out more background details, and references to The Law, The Prophets, and Psalms, etc. Good question, although in Acts Gamaliel is more lenient than Paul with respect to the followers of Jesus. No research was taken into account of what the yeshivas of HIllel and Shammi taught and believed. Things will be different then. scholars can go in offering probable rather than speculative inferences? I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. I believe that his reaction was not majorly a reflection of his upbringing and teaching, but rather of a fear that the tradition and comfort of the Jewish ways was being challenged by a dangerous liberal view (P. Long), and he thought it his duty to protect his lifestyle and beliefs as a Hebrew of Hebrews, a Pharisee, and of the Tribe of Benjamin (Phi 3:5-5). The sentence begins with So in the NIV and Amplified Bibles, and Therefore in the NASB and King James Bibles, which ties 7:12 to the previous sentences. No it is true and I do know what im talking about since ive been a Yeshiva student for years and learning under well versed Orthodox and Messianic Rabbis. If Paul began study at the latest age of 16, we can guess a birth year of about 6 at the earliest. Written in stone. What could be more permanent than that? Paul said no, it ONE commandment- to love people. Who did Apostle Paul study under? Well see in your other articles. A scribe would be among the most highly educated in Judaism, and since at the feet of Gamaliel implies a mentoring relationship, it seems to me that a near-equivalent would be a serious specialized Masters Program, if not a PhD. Paul wrote: The entire law is summed up in a SINGLE command: Love your neighbor as yourself. [Galatians 5:14, Leviticus 19:18], And again, Paul wrote: He who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. b) Greg Laurie, the Boss of a wide-ranging personal cult empire that generally goes by the name of Harvest. Greg lives in Newport Beach, commutes by helicopter, and exploits the very large church he founded in Riverside from a distance, while he does his own thing in Orange County and travels around wherever he feels like, building a personal business empire with himself as the center, not Jesus. / 2 Tim. Dear Philip, Below are quotes and links from two other blog gentlemen (Christopher, and UnashamedofJesus) who disagree with each other. Since November 2021, Reading Acts is edited by Sarah Westphal. He was brilliant and a top-educated person of his day. Paul claims to have been educated by Gamaliel, one of the premier teachers of the Law in the first century. Paul (previously called Saul of Tarsus; c. 5 - c. 64/65 AD), commonly known as Paul the Apostle and Saint Paul, was a Christian apostle who spread the teachings of Jesus in the first-century world. But what do I do with this truth? He wrote the book on NT theology, and developed a missionary strategy that evangelized the western Roman empireso maybe three or four degrees at least. If we didnt also have the clear records in Mark and Luke, it would be a fairly logical assumption that Jesus sent them out right away, but it would still be just an assumption. Undoubtedly, most of the Jews knew who Gamaliel was, and thus they allowed Paul to speak. In Paul's letters we see that he had a deep understanding of the law. What was his first name? On analogy to Supreme Court Justices dissenting in limited and specific cases (anomolies) as a dissenting minority against a majority with whom the dissent would normally agree? It is interesting in seeing the difference in view points of Saul and Gamaliel. My absolute favorite missionary story in the Bible is the account of Paul . His primary They elevate the 4 Gospels above all other Scriptures, giving the 2 highest places of honor to the Gospels of Matthew and John and they have a special high place for Revelation too. did I miss something? Dear Wilson, Yes there are ! Taken directly from Talmud. You who were formerly known as gentiles. Which one is it? Gamaliel the Elder, or Rabban Gamaliel I, was a leading authority in the Sanhedrin in the early first century CE. Completely different mindset in Jerusalem which forbade such things. Polhill goes on to talk about Paul studying Greek and by him studying under Gameliel and Hellenism, he would be around the gymnasium. Maybe Shammites were more conservative, Hillites more liberal, but that is only relative from the perspective of the Essenes they were all too liberal on the Law! Although in the Bible there are verses speaking about Pauls sister and nephew, there are no references to Pauls wife. Mosley is actually studied under Flusser. I think we take Pauls claim here WAY too seriously. As to pauls seemingly at odds relationship with his teacher Gamaliel, it is no odd thing for a student to differ from a teacher, especially if the student is quite a zealous one. The soul of Saint Gamaliel appeared to the presbyter Lucian in AD 415 and told him where to find the relics of Stephen and those of his own body. Paul made up his own rule. A generation before Christ there were two great rabbis, Hillel and Shammai. But there is a notable difference in Paul from pre- to post-conversion. Not the Jesus of the Koran, written by Muhammad the self-appointed prophet, and not the Jesus of Paul the Pharisee, the self-appointed apostle. Plenty of time for him to get familiar with popular Greek culture in order to draw appropriate analogies. 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